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Author:  LanceK [ Thu May 12, 2005 12:08 am ]
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Im going to order another batch of the OM Plans Monday -If you'd like to get a copy, let me know and ill add you to the count. There are a few prepaid folks - I got ya down.

If you'd like to prepay - you can click the buy Now button in the Libaray of Plans page next to the OM Plan.
Otherwise - Ill let ya know when the plans are in and when to send funds.

Library Quick Link

Thanks --
Lance

Author:  Glen S. [ Thu May 12, 2005 12:44 am ]
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Lance,
Count me in.
Thanks,
Glen

Author:  LanceK [ Thu May 12, 2005 6:14 am ]
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Just 3 takers?

Joe Glen and Jerry - I got ya down.

Author:  crazymanmichael [ Thu May 12, 2005 6:20 am ]
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lance

on the premise that i am not confused this time, and that this really is an om, orchestra model, a la martin, i'll have 2 sets thanks.

Author:  LanceK [ Thu May 12, 2005 6:29 am ]
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GATOR?

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Thu May 12, 2005 6:49 am ]
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Michael,
not exact but very very close
15" Lower bout
11 1/4" Upper bout
19 3/8 body length
9" between waist valleys
6 3/4 from neck joint to waist valley
5 5/16 from neck joint to center of sound hole
4" Dia. sound hole
4 1/4 max depth
3 13/16 minor depth
Top bracing is based off of a shadow tracing of a Martin OM, but my braces thickness and scalop shapes. There are two back bracing patterns. Conventional and my x-back bracing It is not intended to be a Martin copy but is the OM sized model I have developed for my production. I might mention that these are full scale drawings and are body and brace details I did not detail neck to allow each luthier to incorperate their own pre-defined neck and block designs.
MichaelP38484.6630324074

Author:  crazymanmichael [ Thu May 12, 2005 6:57 am ]
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thanks for the info michel.

i'm in for the two mentioned above.

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Thu May 12, 2005 7:09 am ]
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Bailed you out again Lance JK

Author:  GCote [ Thu May 12, 2005 7:18 am ]
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I'll take a set too..

Thanks Gary

Author:  Dave Rector [ Thu May 12, 2005 11:31 pm ]
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Lance, I may want a set of these plans. I was just waiting till I receive the SJ plans so I can check them out first.

Author:  LanceK [ Thu May 12, 2005 11:51 pm ]
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No prob Dave - Im going to order some extras so Ill have them for the Libaray - I was just trying to get an idea of howmany I needed. As with most things like this, the larger the order the cheaper the unit price.

Author:  BruceH [ Fri May 13, 2005 1:36 am ]
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Hi MichaelP,

Would you care to comment on the difference you hear between your x-braced and conventional braced backs?

Thanks,
BruceH

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri May 13, 2005 2:08 am ]
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Well I am no brace expert but I had seen several X back brace patterns and was curious as to tonal diff. so I tried a few different patterns and brace thickness, heights. to see what I would get.

I like to build OM's with Koa tops with IRW back and sides. One of the down falls of Koa top is that some of the higher overtones tend to be muted. I tried stiffening the bass side loosening up the trebel side Koa tops but that just brought out too much mid range so my thinking was to change the back bracing to help bring the back more into play. Like I said I am not a sonic engineer but it did help a great deal. I use it pretty much exclusively on my OM's now regardless of tone wood.

I did several tests using graphite dust to map the back response. very simple not scientific though and found the backs tended to resonate more evenly from the approximant center of the lower bout out than with the conventional bracing. It did seem to wake up the higher overtones on my Koa toped guitars. This really is not based on a proficient study but just informal experiments. Personaly I liked the response I get from this pattern so I have adopted it.

P.S. I have not had the opportunity to confirm it's response on the SJ yet. However I went ahead and proportionally adapted it for SJ's. My next build will be an SJ and I will report on that when I star tapping

Not a lot of Info here but I like it.
MichaelP38485.4806018519

Author:  BruceH [ Fri May 13, 2005 5:08 am ]
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Thanks for the explanation, Michael. I've never heard of a Koa top mixed with other b/s woods, but your explanation makes sense from my limited perspective. Now I wonder how using a mahogany or walnut top would sound with maple (which some describe as too bright)?
Just too many ideas and too little time....

BruceH

Author:  John [ Fri May 13, 2005 5:36 am ]
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Hmm interesting, Is the X brace back just on the lower bout with ladders on the upper?
John

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri May 13, 2005 5:45 am ]
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yep. You can view a smallish image of the plans by going to the library of plans and clicking on the imageMichaelP38485.6149074074

Author:  Tom Harbin [ Fri May 20, 2005 4:33 am ]
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Just received mine today, they are very nice.
Thanks for making them available! Tom H

Author:  Michael Dale Payne [ Fri May 20, 2005 5:16 am ]
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Thanks Tom glad you like em

Author:  LanceK [ Mon May 30, 2005 11:34 pm ]
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Om Plans will Ship starting today.

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